Talk:Eurovision Song Contest 2022

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Semi-protected edit request on 8 May 2022

Request to include additional broadcasting for Norway, since they also have a commentary on NRK P1 which is on the radio. It is not only NRK1 who is broadcasting ESC in Norway.

https://www.nrk.no/kultur/ukraina-er-favorittar-i-eurovision-1.15957086

This is the source which states that P1 is also broadcasting, will need to scroll down to find it. RonsonS (talk) 09:31, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 DoneJochem van Hees (talk) 10:28, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Johnny Weir USA

https://twitter.com/JohnnyGWeir/status/1523665442438479872

Request to add Johnny Weir to the US commentary for Peacock. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:6080:4500:994A:790E:3B0C:99F4:4C95 (talk) 15:30, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

NORTH MACEDONIA NAMING

I think that in the incidents page , every single reference to Macedonia should be corrected as there was a long naming dispute with Greece .

Greece and North Macedonia gained an agreement couple of years ago, and the use of Macedonia it self is prohibited.

This typo will trigger a lot of people and its inaccurate.

North Macedonian’s flag, North Macedonia’s law.

You wouldn’t use simply korea for both countries why to do that with north macedonia Nickodath (talk) 12:29, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

See Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Macedonia). "Macedonian" is a valid adjective for the country North Macedonia. ―Jochem van Hees (talk) 12:37, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Humorous ode "

I believe that calling the opening act of the second semi final "humorous" is a violation of WP:NPOV. It should br changed to something like "stand-up comedy act" or just not put anything in front of it. --85.238.69.176 (talk) 17:58, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed "humorous", but not replaced it with anything. -- AxG /   18:18, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The table in Semi-final 1 is not accessible

The countries that qualified for the final are only indicated using font and colour changes, making this information inaccessible to blind people using screen readers such as myself. See MOS:COLOUR

Can someone fix this? KaraLG84 (talk) 08:13, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This is unfortunate but every table is like this. Fixing one would mean fixing 60+ articles and a hundred or so tables. It will need a lot of consultation and work to repair doktorb wordsdeeds 10:07, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Not really, because those tables have another column for how high they placed. ―Jochem van Hees (talk) 10:24, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
There must be a way of doing this via a bot or AutoWikiBrowser. KaraLG84 (talk) 19:21, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for sorting this out @Jochem van Hees: KaraLG84 (talk) 11:24, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I think we should try to adhere to MOS and accessibility guidelines even if it's a lot of work. I'm not sure what the best way to do it is though. An extra column for Qualified/Not qualified? Are there any articles with similar tables we can refer to? Blue Edits (talk) 10:20, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I mean, take for example Norway in the Eurovision Song Contest 2022 § Final, which has a similar result column. I think that could work here too. ―Jochem van Hees (talk) 10:26, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

ESC 2021 is produced in 4K but upscaled

apparently RAI is producing the whole thing but in upscaled 4K, as they weren't fully equipped with the necessary stuff to make this a "true 4K" experience.

source: https://www.dday.it/redazione/42595/eurovision-song-contest-sara-trasmesso-su-rai-4k-ma-upscalato

187.61.233.248 (talk) 00:51, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Untitled

Tatana Kucharova will announce the Czech points --2A01:36D:1200:40F6:4DE3:D567:35D7:28D3 (talk) 12:37, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Already doneJochem van Hees (talk) 15:18, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

tix have been announced as the norwegian spokeperson

i just read it on nrk`s website. you never check my sources however so, check it out yourself.84.212.100.141 (talk) 12:20, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Already doneÆtoms [talk] 18:48, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Ben David's DSQ

How do we adress the news that Michael has been disqualified? Do we mark Israel in red? ImStevan (talk) 21:44, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Right now I can find only one source talking about it, Il Giorno and I don't know if it's reliable. I'd say first wait for more sources to pick this up, because otherwise this would be a BLP issue. ―Jochem van Hees (talk) 21:50, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Jochem van Hees: rai? ImStevan (talk) 02:54, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It appears to have been a misinterpretation of a presscon with the hosts (https://eurowizja.org/eurowizja-2022-izrael-dyskwalifikacja/) - in any case we need to wait until the EBU puts out a statement Pdhadam (talk) 03:25, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
(https://www.eurofestivalnews.com/2022/05/14/eurovision-2022-michael-ben-david-non-squalifica/) It was confirmed by Eurofestival News that it was a misinterpretation. ESCXtra contacted the EBU and they did that as well (https://escxtra.com/2022/05/14/michael-ben-david-disqualified-translation/) Pdhadam (talk) 10:59, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 14 May 2022

I would like to edit this wikipedia page because I can help edit the scoreboard and facts about Australia. Eurovisionperson333 (talk) 23:33, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Edit requests are for requesting specific things to be changed; we can't help you with editing privileges. ―Jochem van Hees (talk) 23:35, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 15 May 2022

This year's hasn't been Spain's best result since 1995, but since 1984. In 1995, Spain came 2nd. In 2022, Spain has come 3rd, the same position as in 1984. 88.5.61.164 (talk) 04:20, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

In that case the best result since 1984 would be 1995, not 2022. 2022 is the best result since 1995, so the statement is correct. Blue Edits (talk) 08:51, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ukrainian win (Russian win?)

It is likely that Ukraine won in many ways due to the fact that they were attacked by Russia. It is possible that if Russia had not invaded, Ukraine would not have won. Why is it not written in the "Incidents" section?

See these links

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/05/14/entertainment/ukraine-wins-eurovision-song-contest-2022-after-russian-invasion-intl/index.html

&

https://www.nbcchicago.com/entertainment/entertainment-news/ukrainian-band-kalush-orchestra-wins-eurovision-2022-amid-war/2832635/

These are only two in English, and, of course, there are many more in Russian. 212.164.205.176 (talk) 19:04, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Because the fact that there's a military invasion does not explicitly affects how the contest is organised. Also, there's already a host of incidents related to both ESC and the ongoing war in the aforementioned section, and Russia–Ukraine relations in the Eurovision Song Contest has that tidbit you asked too Pdhadam (talk) 11:30, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Request to fix transcription error.

In the table "Semi-final 2 voting results (televote)" in the "Scoreboard" section, Australia/Total Score is shown as 143 but should be 243. Could someone please fix this? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.193.208.154 (talk) 00:43, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Titles for the final points tables are the wrong way round

Please change, the televote and jury tables have the wrong titles. This is easily identifiable from looking at Ukraine in both. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C7:6282:4000:F5CF:C23F:4C7A:E9AF (talk) 00:49, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand how you think they are wrong. Ukraine received lots of twelve points in the televote, and that's exactly what is shown in the table. ―Jochem van Hees (talk) 09:48, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Have you considered it may have been incorrect when that person made the comment? Apache287 (talk) 18:14, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 16 May 2022

The wiki says the voting is done by a professional jury from each country.

That's untrue, EBU has the strength to withdraw those jury's and turn the votes as they see fit. See source: https://eurovisionworld.com/esc/eurovision-2022-votes-from-six-national-juries-removed#:~:text=The%20EBU%20takes%20any%20suspected,or%20outcome%20of%20the%20voting.

Therefore these results can be seen as manipulation as the rules changed mid-game and Wikipedia as fake news for not mentioning it, but describing that each country votes themselves independently.

Therefore I request that this FACT gets mentioned and the description about the jury's and country votes edited, since this wasn't the case for 1/3 of the countries. 77.251.49.202 (talk) 02:51, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: The EBU having the capability to step in and substitute the votes created by juries with an aggregated one in the event they suspect manipulation does not change the fact that the professional juries exist. You are also required to, when making edit requests, present the exact prose you want inserted into the article and provide sourcing should it be necessary. —Sirdog (talk) 03:08, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

FINAL SCOREBOARD

I think there are a few errors in the scoring for the grand final. If you look at the jury votes table, San Marino have apparently given 3 points to both Sweden & Estonia. I don't know the scores to correct the error. Belgium & Norway are wrong. Iceland & Cyprus are wrong. France is way off. Every column should add up to 58 and there should only be one occurence each of 1-8, 10 & 12. That's not the case. I haven't looked at the televoting table, but it may also be out. I think it's just a matter of shifting numbers into the next column. I just don't know which. MWEditorial (talk) 06:23, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! I've shifted Estonia's row back in place, so those should be good now. Blue Edits (talk) 08:04, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Great! As I didn't know any of the scores, I didn't attempt any correction! MWEditorial (talk) 17:39, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Broadcaster Iceland

Can't edit this myself due to being new here, someone please add the name of the Icelandic Radio commentary from RAS 2 which is Gísli Marteinn Baldursson. Link to RUV's schedule of the day which mentions this. MB0RuS (talk) 08:56, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Done, thanks. ―Jochem van Hees (talk) 09:57, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Latvian commentators

The semi-finals were (and always are) commentated only by Toms Grēviņš, Lauris Reiniks joined the commentary only for the finals, which is how the broadcaster operates. They do the same thing every year, I know this because I watched all the shows live on LTV. Unfortunately, I was not able to find any news sources, either in Latvian or English, that confirm this specific arrangement. I tried the same approach as 2021's sources, but 2021's links are inaccessible and this year's TV schedule doesn't have any information either. May I still edit the table to add the correct commentary arrangement? MinMinnH (talk) 10:12, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Austrian Radio commentary missing

Autria's public radio FM4 had an alternative commentary transmission named: Melodien aus Turin which is mentioned on the German wikipedia page but not on this English version. I don't have edit rights, someone may want to add this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MB0RuS (talkcontribs) 10:53, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Done. MinMinnH (talk) 06:47, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Sound Of Beauty

Fellow Wikipedians, I would like to edit the 2022 Eurovision Song Contest page, so it has a bit on the theme, The Sound Of Beauty.What is everyone's view on that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by WikiFan2456 (talkcontribs) 01:07, 17 May 2022 (UTC) [reply]

Edited to remove extra space. Unless you're reporting on official statements/quotes from the EBU and its associates regarding the theme, please see WP:FORUM. MinMinnH (talk) 06:31, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
No, I would just like to write about it. Nothing fancy! I'm still new! WikiFan2456 (talk) 19:21, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Irish TV Audience

Also can't edit but Final had 314,500 in Ireland for RTÉ ONE and RTÉ ONE +1 in total. source https://www.irishmirror.ie/showbiz/eurovision-2020-viewing-figures-average-26979103 IrishTV (talk) 11:02, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Is Laura's absence really an "incident"?

I'm not sure this was a notable enough event to constitute a section in the incidents section, and had Mika and Alessandro not said anything when she returned this would probably have not been included as press would not have picked up on it. Much like the MBD stuff, I think this is a case of journalists chasing their own tails? It's not unusual to have hosts not always on screen, especially in the voting sections.

tl;dr - not notable. Spa-Franks (talk) 19:00, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Even though it was not planned, I also don't think it reached the threshold of an "incident". I also recommend removal. IMO it just didn't matter much. Grk1011 (talk) 20:03, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Czech TV audience

According to this source and this source, Eurovision final averaged 137,000 viewers in Czech Repulic on ČT2, 1,419,000 viewers in Belgium across both regions, 800,000 viewers in Lithuania etc. In Poland, the final peaked at 3,766,000. There are also more precise numbers on countries that are already mentioned in the article. - Kacza195, 18 May 2022, 17:58 — Preceding undated comment added 17:59, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Viewership

I feel like it's about time we introduced more collumns to the viewership numbers. As it is right now, both numbers representing the number of people that watched at least one minute of the show and an average audience throughout the show are mashed together for no reason, and some countries only have the market share value. I see no reason as to why it shouldn't be clarified which number represents what, aswell as adding the market share value. ImStevan (talk) 15:59, 23 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]