Talk:Avengers (Marvel Cinematic Universe)

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DateProcessResult
July 29, 2023Good article nomineeNot listed
January 2, 2024Good article nomineeListed
Did You Know
A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on February 2, 2024.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Kevin Feige first envisioned a shared universe featuring the Avengers in the mid-2000s?
Current status: Good article

Aftermath section

The article failed the first GA attempt and one of the issues brought up was the aftermath section - At some points, the section doesn't discuss the team as a whole, but individual characters. This is especially apparent in "Aftermath" subsection, which details what happens to every single one of the Avengers post-disbandment

What should we do with the section? -- ZooBlazertalk 20:16, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This does go back to concerns I raised in the recent MODOK discussion about the Aftermath section's focus relying too much on individual characters who were on the team but not about the team itself. We have in-universe information at the individual character articles and film and TV articles for a reason. That section as it currently stands explains the events of post-Endgame material which does not specifically revolve around the Avengers team, and I think that should be an area of caution and avoidance. Summarizing the plot of a movie or series with an Avenger as the lead but not the team in it themselves seems irrelevant to this article. We do not need to state what each Avenger did after Endgame here, and should keep it down to information on the Avengers team themselves, such as the Harvest, Lang's book interpretation of the Endgame battle, the Council of Kang's reaction to the 616 Avengers, AvengersCon, and potentially some of the Avengers' retirements or departures from the team as a capper without divulging too far away from this article's subject, although I am less confident on the lattermost and think that we can summarize it with the team disbanding and leave specifics on the characters' fates and future to more relevant articles. Trailblazer101 (talk) 21:34, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Alright, I cut out a lot of the unnecessary info, but didn't do much more than that yet. Also renamed the section. -- ZooBlazertalk 21:50, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of Earth

The "Battle at the Avengers Compound" has been officially named "Battle of Earth" in the second last episode of Secret Invasion. Do we have to rename that section? Redjedi23 (talk) 16:00, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

We had a discussion for this naming at Talk:Thor: Love and Thunder#Battle of Earth, where it was agreed we can use "Battle of Earth" as the official MCU name for properties where it is used (such as Ms. Marvel and Secret Invasion), and to use "the battle at the Avengers Compound" phrasing in plot summaries as a description for properties that don't use the "Battle of Earth" name. This article could use either one, dependent on what it is referring to in context. I would say the "Battle of Earth" term should be addressed within the context of the SI events and the Harvest. Trailblazer101 (talk) 17:54, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
In the absolute worst case and in case there is a disambiguation needed, a footnote should suffice. Dcdiehardfan (talk) 19:35, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Merge?

This is a great article – thanks for all the work to get it here. There does seem to be a lot of overlap with Avengers (comics) – wouldn’t it be better for our readers if these were made into a single article? Onceinawhile (talk) 09:27, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A lot of overlap? There's some comic info when talking about early development of the first movie and then a "differences from the comics" section. Other than that, the majority of the article has nothing to do with the comics, unless you're counting characters having the same names. -- ZooBlazer 17:43, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No. Avengers (comics) is long enough and if these pages are merged, the MCU content will have to be greatly reduced as it will have undue weight in that article, which then defeats the purpose of the merge. Gonnym (talk) 18:09, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Planned Good Topic

Now that this article has been promoted to a GA, I wanted to bring up the idea of a planned Avengers Good Topic again. I brought up the idea on the MCU task force talk page back in July, but I figured it should be brought back up here now that just two more articles need to be promoted to GA of the ones I had planned to include. Those being Production of Avengers: Infinity War and Avengers: Endgame (currently nominated for GA) and Avengers assemble scene (should be nominated soon).

The planned topic would look something like assuming those two articles are promoted to GAs (formatting is subject to change):

I mostly bring this up to make sure there is time to talk about any arguments on other potential additions while the GA process concludes for the other articles, or if nothing else needs to be included until Avengers 5 (unless an article for something like the Avengers theme gets created between now and then for example). -- ZooBlazer 02:03, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Per the original discussion, some of the other options included the soundtracks for each film, Avengers Campus, and potentially Lego Marvel's Avengers. I guess other options based on Category:Avengers (film series) could be What If... the World Lost Its Mightiest Heroes?, What If... Peter Quill Attacked Earth's Mightiest Heroes?, and What If... the Avengers Assembled in 1602?. Of all of those, I feel like only the soundtracks really could maybe have an argument to be included. The criteria for WP:GT states A topic must not cherry-pick only the best articles to become featured together, while also saying a set of similar, interrelated articles or lists that cover a specific topic. I feel like the scope of the topic is to focus on the films, while the accolades covers what is seen in the films. Not every subpage has to be included. -- ZooBlazer 07:17, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think it shouldn't add more articles since every important article it's already there. BigLordFlashtalk 15:17, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]