Talk:2021 in film

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In the table describing the box office hits, it comes to my attention that a number of income alone cannot be a good identifyer of Global popularity. emphasis on "Global". In example as I type this "hi, Mom" is #1, it's a drama comedy that owes it's box office numbers to almost exclusively 1 country's population size and the fact it has actors who are famous in that country, outside of that country it has done dismally, if it was even in theatres (it's not even a summer blockbuster and somehow it beat them all?).. My request is to add another column or 2 to the table to show where the majority of the film's income was made by country. I.E. 90% [country name], 10% elsewhere. it's kinda a big and important factor to consider for movie goers and movie marketing specialists. also that information is readily available from said box office results on official sites, so why not include it? also if a movie predominantly makes money in one country or is not released in at least all country's cinemas it's not really fair to add it on a global popularity chart, it's fine to put it on that country's popularity chart (for example amerca has it's own chart on it's own page for this very reason. I sincerely doubt "Hi, Mom" is popular anywhere outside of the origin country. Joshex (talk) 22:07, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This would be a really useful addition but someone would either need to work out those figures or find a reliable source for them. I think it would also be helpful to add the sources for the existing information. It is very difficult to believe that in the span of 3 days, "Detective Chinatown 3" made over $100m more than "Tenet" did worldwide since it came out. JulianParge^talk 07:51, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"Luca set the record for the highest opening for a triathlon film of $5.6 million, later becoming the highest grossing triathlon film grossing $21 million." Who cares? This doesn't seem important: it seems like a pointless aside. I do not think this warrants mentioning. --Inspector Semenych (talk) 18:02, 20 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Any reason why a user on here scrubbed the Indian names, including Dilip Kumar, who was one of the biggest names in Bollywood cinema ever? --Jkaharper (talk) 00:02, 18 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Don't worry I added his name back. Must have been a misunderstanding. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 223.233.79.152 (talk) 11:15, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A user has been constantly removing the "currently running" from it. Surge_Elec (talk) 16:27, 25 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

WP:RELTIME you probably shouldn't be writing "currently" in the first place, as it will inevitably go out of date. -- 109.78.202.228 (talk) 01:58, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

2021 in film

Hello sir. Regarding our dispute on this page, we should really settle it.

Your argument is that Box Office Mojo did not post updated numbers, but Box Office Mojo is getting outdated numbers from EntGroup any way regarding Chinese movie box office numbers.

Please see Daily Box Office > China, this is where Box Office Mojo get their stuffs.

Please stop removing references, they are highly reliable references that even Scoot Mendelson uses.

Thank you.

--74.119.196.51 (talk) 17:15, 9 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@74.119.196.51: Box Office Mojo shares final numbers. When they update information, we can know the source is reliable. EntGroup, however, has not been discussed for reliability. The claim that it is "highly reliable" has not been proved. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 17:40, 9 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Here is another source: The-Numbers that is also reliable. It showed similar number as EntGroup and it is also more recent for all three movies.

Chang-jin-hu

Hi, Mom (2021-China)

Detective Chinatown

--74.119.196.51 (talk) 19:58, 9 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@74.119.196.51: The Numbers is well-known for posting estimates. They will update the info every day and then fix it when the final numbers arrive. Box Office Mojo is still the most reliable because it only posts final numbers. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 20:19, 9 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

What you said clearly does not make sense. If Box Office Mojo is so up to date, then why it failed to post the final box office figure for Hi, Mom and Detective Chinatown?

Yet it is so up to date when it comes to No Time to Die? A Western movie but not so when it comes to Chinese movies?

This clearly shows that Box Office Mojo is a Western source for Western movies not Chinese movies, therefore, the two references I posted are more reliable regarding to Chinese movies. Especially EntGroup.

After all, these two movies' show time was way back in February this year, their final box office figure came out long time ago.

--74.119.196.51 (talk) 14:18, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This clearly shows that Box Office Mojo is a Western source for Western movies not Chinese movies. That is an unsourced claim. You keep updating the box office numbers for Chinese films but they do not appear here. Where are you getting these numbers? Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 15:26, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

it says that this was the first year that a Chinese film topped the box office. I am not sure what this means, but I think it is wrong.

1) If it means that this was the first time that a Chinese film topped the box office for the year, then the year isn't over yet and there still might be a non-Chinese film that ends up taking the first place for 2021, especially if we are counting releases that are made in 2021, but continue in theatres into 2022.

2) If it means that it is the first time that a Chinese film was #1 in the box office at any time, I believe this is also untrue. In Feb 2019, when the Wandering Earth was released, it also topped the global box office until Captain Marvel was released a few months later. I am not sure, but there might be other Chinese films even earlier that had short times at the top of the global box office. Reesorville (talk) 12:15, 15 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

These overall lists don't, but I can't find a 2021 in US film article, so I thought I'd drop this resource here: 2021: the year in US film from Sight & Sound. Kingsif (talk) 00:39, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I think as wikipedia think it is a global information encyclopedia, but this and all "year in film" articles should and must remove awards section because all the awards mentioned in that section just American, Hollywood and somewhat english western films "exclusive awards" and rest of the world is mentioned by one single best foreign film category of these awards whether we see Golden Globe Awards, British Academy Film Awards, Academy Awards , Critics' Choice Awards or Writers Guild of America Awards.

Same as few years ago wikipedia decentralized movies in a year category according to its country of origin and created separate articles for it, eg List of American films of 2021, List of British films of 2021 and wikipedia in film festival section mention film festivals from around the world rather than just english, western Hollywood films

So, my my final request to Wikipedia would be to transfer the award sections to their respective countries award sections such as List of American films of 2021 and List of British films of 2021. Also, remove awards section from this and corresponding articles of List of years in film. Tricana8571uno (talk) 11:43, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]