Basketball at the 2004 Summer Olympics – Men's team rosters

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This is a list of the players who were on the rosters of the teams who participated in the 2004 Summer Olympics for men's basketball.

Group A

Argentina

The following is the Argentina roster in the men's basketball tournament of the 2004 Summer Olympics.^[1]

Argentina men's national basketball team – 2004 Summer Olympics roster
Players	Coaches
Pos. No. Name Age – Date of birth Height Club Ctr. PG 4 Juan Ignacio Sánchez 27 – (1977-04-08)8 April 1977 1.93 m (6 ft 4 in) Etosa Alicante SG 5 Manu Ginóbili 27 – (1977-07-28)28 July 1977 1.98 m (6 ft 6 in) San Antonio Spurs PG 6 Alejandro Montecchia 32 – (1972-01-01)1 January 1972 1.82 m (6 ft 0 in) Pamesa Valencia C 7 Fabricio Oberto 29 – (1975-03-21)21 March 1975 2.08 m (6 ft 10 in) Pamesa Valencia SF 8 Walter Herrmann 25 – (1979-06-26)26 June 1979 2.03 m (6 ft 8 in) Unicaja Málaga C 9 Gabriel Fernández 27 – (1976-10-23)23 October 1976 2.04 m (6 ft 8 in) Fórum Valladolid SG 10 Hugo Sconochini (C) 33 – (1971-04-10)10 April 1971 1.92 m (6 ft 4 in) Olimpia Milano PF 11 Luis Scola 24 – (1980-04-30)30 April 1980 2.06 m (6 ft 9 in) Tau Cerámica PF 12 Leonardo Gutiérrez 26 – (1978-05-16)16 May 1978 2.00 m (6 ft 7 in) Obras Sanitarias SF 13 Andrés Nocioni 24 – (1979-11-30)30 November 1979 2.01 m (6 ft 7 in) Tau Cerámica SF 14 Carlos Delfino 21 – (1982-08-29)29 August 1982 1.98 m (6 ft 6 in) Skipper Bologna C 15 Rubén Wolkowyski 30 – (1973-09-30)30 September 1973 2.08 m (6 ft 10 in) Olympiacos B.C.	Head coach Rubén Magnano Legend (C) Team captain nat field describes country of last club before the tournament Age as of August 13, 2004

China

The following is the China roster in the men's basketball tournament of the 2004 Summer Olympics.^[2]

China men's national basketball team – 2004 Summer Olympics roster
Players	Coaches
Pos. No. Name Age – Date of birth Height Club Ctr. F 4 Chen Ke 25 – (1979-05-16)16 May 1979 2.04 m (6 ft 8 in) Bayi Rockets G 5 Liu Wei 24 – (1980-01-15)15 January 1980 1.90 m (6 ft 3 in) Shanghai Sharks G 6 Zhang Jingsong 27 – (1977-03-20)20 March 1977 1.82 m (6 ft 0 in) Beijing Ducks G 7 Guo Shiqiang 29 – (1975-07-08)8 July 1975 1.92 m (6 ft 4 in) Liaoning Hunters F 8 Zhu Fangyu 21 – (1983-01-05)5 January 1983 2.01 m (6 ft 7 in) Guangdong Southern Tigers F 9 Zhang Yunsong 30 – (1973-09-02)2 September 1973 1.98 m (6 ft 6 in) Bayi Rockets F 10 Li Nan (C) 27 – (1976-09-25)25 September 1976 1.98 m (6 ft 6 in) Bayi Rockets F 11 Yi Jianlian 16 – (1987-10-27)27 October 1987 2.12 m (6 ft 11 in) Guangdong Southern Tigers F 12 Mo Ke 21 – (1982-09-08)8 September 1982 2.08 m (6 ft 10 in) Shenyang Army C 13 Yao Ming 23 – (1980-09-12)12 September 1980 2.26 m (7 ft 5 in) Houston Rockets C 14 Mengke Bateer 28 – (1975-11-20)20 November 1975 2.10 m (6 ft 11 in) Toronto Raptors F 15 Du Feng 23 – (1981-07-30)30 July 1981 2.07 m (6 ft 9 in) Guangdong Southern Tigers	Head coach Del Harris Assistant coach(es) Jonas Kazlauskas Adiljan Jun Legend (C) Team captain nat field describes country of last club before the tournament Age as of August 13, 2004

Italy

The following is the Italy roster in the men's basketball tournament of the 2004 Summer Olympics.^[3]

Italy men's national basketball team – 2004 Summer Olympics roster
Players	Coaches
Pos. No. Name Age – Date of birth Height Club Ctr. F 4 Nikola Radulović 31 – (1973-04-26)26 April 1973 2.07 m (6 ft 9 in) Joventut Badalona G 5 Gianluca Basile 29 – (1975-01-24)24 January 1975 1.92 m (6 ft 4 in) Skipper Bologna F 6 Giacomo Galanda (C) 29 – (1975-01-30)30 January 1975 2.10 m (6 ft 11 in) Montepaschi Siena G 7 Matteo Soragna 28 – (1975-12-26)26 December 1975 1.97 m (6 ft 6 in) Lauretana Biella C 8 Denis Marconato 29 – (1975-07-29)29 July 1975 2.11 m (6 ft 11 in) Benetton Treviso G 9 Gianmarco Pozzecco 31 – (1972-09-15)15 September 1972 1.80 m (5 ft 11 in) Skipper Bologna G 10 Alex Righetti 26 – (1977-08-14)14 August 1977 2.00 m (6 ft 7 in) Lottomatica Roma G 11 Rodolfo Rombaldoni 27 – (1976-12-15)15 December 1976 1.93 m (6 ft 4 in) Tris Reggio Calabria G 12 Massimo Bulleri 26 – (1977-09-10)10 September 1977 1.88 m (6 ft 2 in) Benetton Treviso G 13 Michele Mian 31 – (1973-07-18)18 July 1973 1.93 m (6 ft 4 in) Snaidero Udine C 14 Roberto Chiacig 29 – (1974-12-01)1 December 1974 2.10 m (6 ft 11 in) Montepaschi Siena C 15 Luca Garri 22 – (1982-01-03)3 January 1982 2.04 m (6 ft 8 in) Mabo Livorno	Head coach Carlo Recalcati Assistant coach(es) Fabrizio Frates Giovanni Piccin Legend (C) Team captain nat field describes country of last club before the tournament Age as of August 13, 2004

New Zealand

The following is the New Zealand roster in the men's basketball tournament of the 2004 Summer Olympics.^[4]

New Zealand men's national basketball team – 2004 Summer Olympics roster
Players	Coaches
Pos. No. Name Age – Date of birth Height Club Ctr. G 4 Mark Dickel 27 – (1976-12-21)21 December 1976 1.87 m (6 ft 2 in) Fenerbahçe G/F 5 Pāora Winitana 27 – (1976-12-06)6 December 1976 1.96 m (6 ft 5 in) New Zealand Breakers G 6 Kirk Penney 23 – (1980-11-23)23 November 1980 1.96 m (6 ft 5 in) Auna Gran Canaria G 7 Paul Henare 25 – (1979-03-04)4 March 1979 1.82 m (6 ft 0 in) New Zealand Breakers G 8 Phill Jones 30 – (1974-03-25)25 March 1974 1.97 m (6 ft 6 in) New Zealand Breakers G 9 Aaron Olson 26 – (1978-05-11)11 May 1978 1.95 m (6 ft 5 in) New Zealand Breakers F 10 Dillon Boucher 28 – (1975-12-27)27 December 1975 1.96 m (6 ft 5 in) New Zealand Breakers F 11 Pero Cameron (C) 30 – (1974-06-05)5 June 1974 2.00 m (6 ft 7 in) New Zealand Breakers F/C 12 Sean Marks 28 – (1975-08-23)23 August 1975 2.08 m (6 ft 10 in) San Antonio Spurs C 14 Ed Book 33 – (1970-09-23)23 September 1970 2.10 m (6 ft 11 in) Nelson Giants C 15 Tony Rampton 28 – (1976-05-30)30 May 1976 2.13 m (7 ft 0 in) Cairns Taipans	Head coach Tab Baldwin Assistant coach(es) Murray McMahon Nenad Vučinić Legend (C) Team captain nat field describes country of last club before the tournament Age as of 13 August 2004

Serbia and Montenegro

The following is the Serbia and Montenegro roster in the men's basketball tournament of the 2004 Summer Olympics.^[5]

Serbia and Montenegro men's national basketball team – 2004 Summer Olympics roster
Players	Coaches
Pos. No. Name Age – Date of birth Height Club Ctr. G 4 Dejan Bodiroga (C) 31 – (1973-03-02)2 March 1973 2.03 m (6 ft 8 in) FC Barcelona C 5 Petar Popović 25 – (1979-07-28)28 July 1979 2.11 m (6 ft 11 in) Hemofarm C 6 Đuro Ostojić 28 – (1976-02-17)17 February 1976 2.07 m (6 ft 9 in) Partizan F 7 Vladimir Radmanović 23 – (1980-11-19)19 November 1980 2.06 m (6 ft 9 in) Seattle SuperSonics G 8 Igor Rakočević 26 – (1978-03-29)29 March 1978 1.94 m (6 ft 4 in) Crvena Zvezda G 9 Vlado Šćepanović 28 – (1975-11-13)13 November 1975 1.96 m (6 ft 5 in) Partizan G 10 Vule Avdalović 22 – (1981-11-24)24 November 1981 1.94 m (6 ft 4 in) Partizan C 11 Predrag Drobnjak 28 – (1975-10-27)27 October 1975 2.07 m (6 ft 9 in) Los Angeles Clippers C 12 Nenad Krstić 21 – (1983-07-25)25 July 1983 2.14 m (7 ft 0 in) New Jersey Nets G 13 Miloš Vujanić 23 – (1980-11-13)13 November 1980 1.92 m (6 ft 4 in) Skipper Bologna C 14 Dejan Tomašević 31 – (1973-05-06)6 May 1973 2.08 m (6 ft 10 in) Pamesa Valencia F 15 Aleksandar Pavlović 20 – (1983-11-15)15 November 1983 2.01 m (6 ft 7 in) Utah Jazz	Head coach Željko Obradović Assistant coach(es) Dragan Šakota Legend (C) Team captain nat field describes country of last club before the tournament Age as of August 13, 2004

Spain

The following is the Spain roster in the men's basketball tournament of the 2004 Summer Olympics.^[6]

Spain men's national basketball team – 2004 Summer Olympics roster
Players	Coaches
Pos. No. Name Age – Date of birth Height Club Ctr. F/C 4 Pau Gasol 24 – (1980-07-06)6 July 1980 2.13 m (7 ft 0 in) Memphis Grizzlies C 5 Iker Iturbe 28 – (1976-07-10)10 July 1976 2.01 m (6 ft 7 in) Adecco Estudiantes G 6 Comas, Jaume 30 – (1974-08-02)2 August 1974 1.86 m (6 ft 1 in) Caprabo Lleida G 7 Juan Carlos Navarro 24 – (1980-06-13)13 June 1980 1.91 m (6 ft 3 in) FC Barcelona G 8 José Calderón 22 – (1981-09-28)28 September 1981 1.90 m (6 ft 3 in) TAU Cerámica F/C 9 Felipe Reyes 24 – (1980-03-16)16 March 1980 2.06 m (6 ft 9 in) Adecco Estudiantes F 10 Carlos Jiménez (C) 28 – (1976-02-10)10 February 1976 2.04 m (6 ft 8 in) Adecco Estudiantes G 11 Óscar Yebra 30 – (1974-07-15)15 July 1974 2.00 m (6 ft 7 in) Forum Valladolid C 12 Roberto Dueñas 28 – (1975-11-01)1 November 1975 2.21 m (7 ft 3 in) FC Barcelona G 13 Rudy Fernandez 19 – (1985-04-04)4 April 1985 1.96 m (6 ft 5 in) Joventut Badalona G 14 Rodrigo De la Fuente 27 – (1976-11-28)28 November 1976 2.00 m (6 ft 7 in) FC Barcelona F/C 15 Jorge Garbajosa 26 – (1977-12-19)19 December 1977 2.07 m (6 ft 9 in) Benetton Treviso	Head coach Mario Pesquera Assistant coach(es) Joan Creus Manuel Genaro Díaz Legend (C) Team captain nat field describes country of last club before the tournament Age as of August 13, 2004

Group B

Angola

The following is the Angola roster in the men's basketball tournament of the 2004 Summer Olympics.^[7]

Angola men's national basketball team – 2004 Summer Olympics roster
Players	Coaches
Pos. No. Name Age – Date of birth Height Club Ctr. F 4 Olimpio Cipriano 22 – (1982-04-09)9 April 1982 1.92 m (6 ft 4 in) Primeiro de Agosto G 5 Walter Costa 31 – (1973-03-25)25 March 1973 1.85 m (6 ft 1 in) Primeiro de Agosto F/C 6 Angelo Victoriano (C) 36 – (1968-02-08)8 February 1968 1.96 m (6 ft 5 in) Primeiro de Agosto F 7 Gerson Monteiro 31 – (1973-07-12)12 July 1973 1.90 m (6 ft 3 in) Petróleos Luanda F 8 Edmar Victoriano 28 – (1975-11-10)10 November 1975 1.95 m (6 ft 5 in) Primeiro de Agosto F 9 Victor de Carvalho 35 – (1969-02-20)20 February 1969 1.93 m (6 ft 4 in) Petróleos Luanda F/C 10 Joaquim Gomes 23 – (1980-12-23)23 December 1980 2.00 m (6 ft 7 in) Valparaiso Crusaders F/C 11 Victor Muzadi 26 – (1978-06-22)22 June 1978 2.01 m (6 ft 7 in) Primeiro de Agosto C 12 Abdel Moussa 24 – (1980-04-08)8 April 1980 2.02 m (6 ft 8 in) Primeiro de Agosto G/F 13 Carlos Almeida 27 – (1976-09-24)24 September 1976 1.92 m (6 ft 4 in) Primeiro de Agosto G 14 Miguel Lutonda 32 – (1971-12-24)24 December 1971 1.86 m (6 ft 1 in) Primeiro de Agosto F/C 15 Eduardo Mingas 25 – (1979-01-29)29 January 1979 1.96 m (6 ft 5 in) Interclube	Head coach Mário Palma Assistant coach(es) Raúl Duarte Jaime Covilhã Legend (C) Team captain nat field describes country of last club before the tournament Age as of August 13, 2004

Australia

The following is the Australia roster in the men's basketball tournament of the 2004 Summer Olympics.^[8]

Australia men's national basketball team – 2004 Summer Olympics roster
Players	Coaches
Pos. No. Name Age – Date of birth Height Club Ctr. F 4 Tony Ronaldson 32 – (1972-05-25)25 May 1972 2.03 m (6 ft 8 in) Perth Wildcats G 5 Brett Maher 31 – (1973-04-17)17 April 1973 1.88 m (6 ft 2 in) Adelaide 36ers F 6 Andrew Bogut 19 – (1984-11-28)28 November 1984 2.07 m (6 ft 9 in) Utah Utes F 7 Martin Cattalini 30 – (1973-10-04)4 October 1973 2.02 m (6 ft 8 in) Adelaide 36ers G 8 John Rillie 32 – (1971-11-04)4 November 1971 1.95 m (6 ft 5 in) West Sydney Razorbacks G 9 C. J. Bruton 28 – (1975-12-13)13 December 1975 1.88 m (6 ft 2 in) Sydney Kings G/F 10 Jason Smith 29 – (1974-10-20)20 October 1974 1.94 m (6 ft 4 in) Sydney Kings G 11 Shane Heal (C) 33 – (1970-09-06)6 September 1970 1.83 m (6 ft 0 in) Sydney Kings F 12 Glen Saville 28 – (1976-01-17)17 January 1976 1.99 m (6 ft 6 in) Wollongong Hawks C 13 David Andersen 24 – (1980-06-23)23 June 1980 2.12 m (6 ft 11 in) Montepaschi Siena F 14 Matthew Nielsen 26 – (1978-02-03)3 February 1978 2.09 m (6 ft 10 in) Sydney Kings C 15 Paul Rogers 30 – (1973-09-29)29 September 1973 2.08 m (6 ft 10 in) Casademont Girona	Head coach Brian Goorjian Assistant coach(es) Brendan Joyce Ken Shields Legend (C) Team captain nat field describes country of last club before the tournament Age as of August 13, 2004

Greece

The following is the Greece roster in the men's basketball tournament of the 2004 Summer Olympics.^[9]

Greece men's national basketball team – 2004 Summer Olympics roster
Players	Coaches
Pos. No. Name Age – Date of birth Height Club Ctr. F 4 Fragiskos Alvertis (C) 30 – (1974-06-11)11 June 1974 2.06 m (6 ft 9 in) Panathinaikos G 5 Theodoros Papaloukas 27 – (1977-05-08)8 May 1977 2.00 m (6 ft 7 in) CSKA Moscow G 6 Nikolaos Zisis 20 – (1983-08-16)16 August 1983 1.97 m (6 ft 6 in) AEK Athens F 7 Dimitris Papanikolaou 27 – (1977-02-07)7 February 1977 2.02 m (6 ft 8 in) Panathinaikos G 8 Vassilis Spanoulis 22 – (1982-08-07)7 August 1982 1.93 m (6 ft 4 in) Maroussi F 9 Antonis Fotsis 23 – (1981-04-01)1 April 1981 2.09 m (6 ft 10 in) Real Madrid G 10 Nikolaos Chatzivrettas 27 – (1977-05-26)26 May 1977 1.95 m (6 ft 5 in) Panathinaikos F/C 11 Dimosthenis Dikoudis 27 – (1977-06-24)24 June 1977 2.08 m (6 ft 10 in) CSKA Moscow C 12 Konstantinos Tsartsaris 24 – (1979-10-17)17 October 1979 2.09 m (6 ft 10 in) Panathinaikos G 13 Dimitris Diamantidis 24 – (1980-05-06)6 May 1980 1.96 m (6 ft 5 in) Iraklis Thessaloniki C 14 Lazaros Papadopoulos 24 – (1980-06-03)3 June 1980 2.13 m (7 ft 0 in) Dynamo Moscow F/C 15 Michail Kakiouzis 27 – (1976-11-29)29 November 1976 2.07 m (6 ft 9 in) Dynamo Moscow	Head coach Panagiotis Giannakis Assistant coach(es) Eleftherios Kakiousis Ioannis Sfairopoulos Legend (C) Team captain nat field describes country of last club before the tournament Age as of August 13, 2004

Lithuania

The following is the Lithuania roster in the men's basketball tournament of the 2004 Summer Olympics.^[10]

Lithuania men's national basketball team – 2004 Summer Olympics roster
Players	Coaches
Pos. No. Name Age – Date of birth Height Club Ctr. G 4 Vidas Ginevičius 26 – (1978-05-11)11 May 1978 1.93 m (6 ft 4 in) Žalgiris Kaunas F 5 Mindaugas Žukauskas 28 – (1975-08-24)24 August 1975 2.01 m (6 ft 7 in) Montepaschi Siena G 6 Arvydas Macijauskas 24 – (1980-01-19)19 January 1980 1.92 m (6 ft 4 in) TAU Cerámica F 7 Saulius Štombergas (C) 30 – (1973-12-14)14 December 1973 2.04 m (6 ft 8 in) UNICS Kazan G 8 Ramūnas Šiškauskas 25 – (1978-09-10)10 September 1978 1.98 m (6 ft 6 in) Lietuvos Rytas F 9 Darius Songaila 26 – (1978-02-14)14 February 1978 2.04 m (6 ft 8 in) Sacramento Kings G 10 Donatas Slanina 27 – (1977-04-23)23 April 1977 1.92 m (6 ft 4 in) Caja San Fernando Sevilla C 11 Eurelijus Žukauskas 30 – (1973-08-22)22 August 1973 2.18 m (7 ft 2 in) UNICS Kazan F/C 12 Kšyštof Lavrinovič 24 – (1979-11-01)1 November 1979 2.10 m (6 ft 11 in) Ural Great Perm G 13 Šarūnas Jasikevičius 28 – (1976-03-05)5 March 1976 1.93 m (6 ft 4 in) Maccabi Tel Aviv G/F 14 Dainius Šalenga 27 – (1977-04-15)15 April 1977 1.98 m (6 ft 6 in) Žalgiris Kaunas C 15 Robertas Javtokas 24 – (1980-03-20)20 March 1980 2.10 m (6 ft 11 in) Lietuvos Rytas	Head coach Antanas Sireika Assistant coach(es) Valdemaras Chomičius Gintaras Krapikas Donnie Nelson Legend (C) Team captain nat field describes country of last club before the tournament Age as of August 13, 2004

Puerto Rico

The following is the Puerto Rico roster in the men's basketball tournament of the 2004 Summer Olympics.^[11]

Puerto Rico men's national basketball team – 2004 Summer Olympics roster
Players	Coaches
Pos. No. Name Age – Date of birth Height Club Ctr. C 4 José Ortiz (C) 40 – (1963-10-23)23 October 1963 2.11 m (6 ft 11 in) Cangrejeros de Santurce G/F 5 Eddie Casiano 31 – (1972-09-20)20 September 1972 1.92 m (6 ft 4 in) Leones de Ponce G 6 Roberto Hatton 27 – (1976-10-11)11 October 1976 1.88 m (6 ft 2 in) Leones de Ponce G 7 Carlos Arroyo 25 – (1979-07-30)30 July 1979 1.85 m (6 ft 1 in) Utah Jazz G/F 8 Rick Apodaca 24 – (1980-07-01)1 July 1980 1.95 m (6 ft 5 in) Huntsville Flight G 9 Christian Dalmau 28 – (1975-08-29)29 August 1975 1.92 m (6 ft 4 in) Atléticos de San Germán G 10 Elias Ayuso 27 – (1977-03-27)27 March 1977 1.92 m (6 ft 4 in) Beşiktaş C 11 Peter John Ramos 19 – (1985-05-23)23 May 1985 2.19 m (7 ft 2 in) Criollos de Caguas F 12 Rolando Hourruitiner 29 – (1975-05-28)28 May 1975 2.04 m (6 ft 8 in) Cangrejeros de Santurce F 13 Sharif Fajardo 28 – (1976-06-09)9 June 1976 2.10 m (6 ft 11 in) Acegas Trieste F 14 Jorge Rivera 30 – (1973-12-09)9 December 1973 2.01 m (6 ft 7 in) Vaqueros de Bayamón C 15 Daniel Santiago 28 – (1976-06-24)24 June 1976 2.13 m (7 ft 0 in) Milwaukee Bucks	Head coach Julio Toro Assistant coach(es) Flor Meléndez Manolo Cintron Legend (C) Team captain nat field describes country of last club before the tournament Age as of August 13, 2004

United States

The following is the United States roster in the men's basketball tournament of the 2004 Summer Olympics.^[12]

United States men's national basketball team – 2004 Summer Olympics roster
Players	Coaches
Pos. No. Name Age – Date of birth Height Club Ctr. G 4 Allen Iverson (C) 29 – (1975-06-07)7 June 1975 1.82 m (6 ft 0 in) Philadelphia 76ers G 5 Stephon Marbury 27 – (1977-02-20)20 February 1977 1.87 m (6 ft 2 in) New York Knicks G 6 Dwyane Wade 22 – (1982-01-17)17 January 1982 1.93 m (6 ft 4 in) Miami Heat F 7 Carlos Boozer 22 – (1981-11-20)20 November 1981 2.05 m (6 ft 9 in) Cleveland Cavaliers F 8 Carmelo Anthony 20 – (1984-05-29)29 May 1984 2.03 m (6 ft 8 in) Denver Nuggets F 9 LeBron James 19 – (1984-12-30)30 December 1984 2.03 m (6 ft 8 in) Cleveland Cavaliers C 10 Emeka Okafor 21 – (1982-09-28)28 September 1982 2.07 m (6 ft 9 in) Charlotte Bobcats F 11 Shawn Marion 26 – (1978-05-07)7 May 1978 2.00 m (6 ft 7 in) Phoenix Suns C 12 Amar'e Stoudemire 21 – (1982-11-16)16 November 1982 2.08 m (6 ft 10 in) Phoenix Suns F 13 Tim Duncan (C) 28 – (1976-04-25)25 April 1976 2.10 m (6 ft 11 in) San Antonio Spurs F 14 Lamar Odom 24 – (1979-11-06)6 November 1979 2.08 m (6 ft 10 in) Miami Heat G 15 Richard Jefferson 24 – (1980-06-21)21 June 1980 2.00 m (6 ft 7 in) New Jersey Nets	Head coach Larry Brown Assistant coach(es) Gregg Popovich Roy Williams Oliver Purnell Legend (C) Team captain nat field describes country of last club before the tournament Age as of August 13, 2004

References

External links

• Official Olympic Report Archived 2011-05-23 at the Wayback Machine